“WHERE ELSE CAN WE GO?”


John 6:60-69                                               

Some weeks ago, I chose this text for today’s sermon because it fit in to the ideas I was seeking to address before my time with you is over. I never gave it a thought that this is also Thanksgiving Sunday and while this is a good text, rich in meaning, it is a strange text for thanksgiving worship. Of course, I can rationalize it all by saying, when we speak about a relationship with God as seen through Jesus Christ, we ought always to be thankful. There, the theme has been addressed- I feel better now!

Today, I want us to look at how the story of salvation has been told in every age in the understanding of the age in which it was written.

The texts for today are offensive to all- no one is left out. First there is Joshua, leader of the Israelites, successor to Moses and now old in years himself. Joshua not only was the Israelite leader he was also their warfare General. In the name of Yahweh, he led the Israelite army in the bloody conquest of Canaan. Just to refresh your thinking, the land of Canaan, the land into which the Children of Israel came following the 40 years in the wilderness was a territory comprising the current lands of Israel, Palestine, Lebanon and Syria. It was a large area and to conquer this land, in the name of Yahweh, Joshua was the commander and chief of the Israelite army and successfully led them through 31 conflicts in seven years. The book of Joshua is a book of war and fighting and the path of Joshua to the scripture of today is coloured by the blood they trampled through.

In this path of destruction, Joshua and the army conquered the Hittites, the Hivites, the Perizites, the Girgashites, the Amorites and the Jebusites and in the process killed every single man, woman and child. This is not the story of some African rebellion in Nigeria or Rwanda; this is ethnic slaughter in the name of God, not unlike some of the tragedies of today in the name of religious leaders. Listen to Joshua 10:40 “ So Joshua defeated the whole land, the hill country and the Negev and the lowland and the slopes, and all their Kings. He left no one remaining but utterly destroyed all that breathed as the Lord God commanded.”

Does this sound like the God you and I worship? Here is yet another graphic example of the foolishness of reading the Bible literally. The Bible reflects the cultural understandings of the day in which each book was written. Thank goodness, conditions evolve and in the process improve. While warfare is still horrible, it is much more humane than these ghastly pictures in Joshua where he is commander and Chief of the Lord’s army. Yet that was the medium of success in that day and age. The writer is trying to show that salvation comes through almighty God and that is evidenced in that era by success in conquering and destroying one’s enemies.

Things have improved and while we are anxious for things to be better, none of us would want to return to those ruthless days of old when killing was common and accepted anymore than we would want to return to 300 AD dental work or medial surgery. Even though some people in the middle- east still agree with this old method in proving their deity’s power, slowly God’s plan is growing and evolving. But it’s so slow, you say. Aye, by our measurements it is but remembers, a thousand years is but one day with the Lord. God’s time schedule, with all eternity at hand is quite different than our little allotment of time on this earth; so we walk by faith and look forward, always to a brighter tomorrow. For our day, this is a troubling story.

Now, if that story does not offend you, how about the story of Elijah. Most of you have heard the story; it’s found in the book of 1 Kings beginning at chapter 18. After a series of crisis, including a dreadful drought, Elijah goes, as instructed by Yahweh to meet King Ahab, husband of Queen Jezebel. Ahab is weak beside the strong Jezebel who is a devout follower of Baal and has her own bevy of priests to preside over all types of worship in the Kingdom.

Elijah goes because Yahweh says, if you go to Ahab, in my name, I will cause rain to come to the land. When Ahab saw Elijah, he said, "Is it you, you trouble maker?” Elijah said, "You have forsaken Yahweh and are worshipping Baal. Yahweh is going to punish you even though you have 450 priests and Yahweh has only me. Gather the people at Mt. Carmel. Let each of us have a bull; let the priest of Baal choose the bull they want and cut it up in small pieces and place it on the wood.”

Let each of us call upon our God to set the bull and the pieces on fire and whoever answers with fire will truly be God.” The assembled people said, “That’s a good solution.”

You remember how it goes: the priests of Baal pray till noon and there is no fire. Elijah stirs up emotions by jeering and mocking them and saying, “ your God has gone on a journey, or is asleep and must be awakened.” He priests continue in prayer until evening, still there is no fire.

So, late in the day, Elijah builds an altar of 12 stones, representing the twelve tribes of Israel, has a trench dug around it and commands the cut up bull to dowsed in water. He then prays to Yahweh and fire descends, burns up the bull and even laps up the water around the alter and in the trenches. When the people saw this, they fell on their faces and proclaimed, "The Lord God of Israel is God."

One can scarcely think of a more graphic story than that in the culture of that time. What could possibly be a greater example of God’s all-powerful salvation that this dramatic story. Yet even with this incredible victory in his grasp, Elijah is not content. He orders all of the priests of Baal be captured, commanding that not one of them escape. Elijah then had them brought to the brook Kishon and systematically killed all of them, thus enraging Queen Jezebel. Elijah has to flee because the Queen wants him killed as her priests were.

Is this the God you and I are called upon to worship? Certainly, in our day and age we would not condone any such harsh treatment. Again, we read this story, not for its literal aspects but to see the writers were proclaiming Yahweh as The Great God in a world of many Gods. Involvement by God or gods in the human scene was an accepted manner of communicating the greatness of God as the worthy recipient of one’s allegiance and adoration. Here is another example of where the Bible is not factual, but it is true. We grasp what the writers were trying to say to their readers in the context of their cultural understanding.

Now we turn to John. In this section of the New Testament, Jesus really upsets the religious faithful.
In the preceding verses, Jesus says “I have come down from heaven” and “I am the bread of life.
Your fathers ate bread in the wilderness and they died. This is the bread that came down from heaven, if anyone eats this bread he will live forever and this bread I give is my flesh.”  The Jews asked “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?” Jesus replied “Unless you eat the flesh of the son of man, and drink his blood, you have no life within you.” Hearing this dismayed them, because the Hebrew scriptures strictly forbade the drinking of blood. Many of Jesus followers said “This is a hard saying, who can listen to it?” And many that were there began to pull away and leave the presence of Jesus.  But Jesus was unrelenting. He stated, “Do you take offense at this? What if I were to go up to where I was before and leave you all here alone with stiff necks from looking up at me?” The people were incensed.

Jesus, seeing that many were leaving, turned to his twelve disciples and said “Do you wish to go away?” Peter answered “Where would we go, to whom would we flee? You have the words of eternal life. We have come to believe that you are the Holy One of God.” Jesus answered “Did I not choose you, the twelve, and even one of you is a devil?" He was speaking of Judas Iscariot.  Isn’t that a strange passage? There is no explanation by Jesus. That’s what they wanted, so they would have information to decide, but Jesus said that it was not their decision to belong to him. That decision, he said, is God’s, so don’t blame me if you don’t get it.

Does this sound like the Jesus that you and I have heard about, tried to follow and worshipped as Lord? This story about Jesus offers no compromise. If you can’t buy in, he seems to be saying, you are free to go. It is Peter who speaks for us and says "OK, but where can we go? There is no other, you have the words of life.”

There you have it: three very different and difficult texts. Now, what do we make of them?   Well, it seems to me that we need to understand that the Bible is always talking about salvation. Joshua is talking about the sacred history of Israel, and proclaiming to all the memory of God’s covenant with Israel. God is able to fulfill all aspects of his promise. In the O.ld testament, God promised Israel a land, and God fulfilled that story in Joshua. Perhaps that will help you understand the passion of the people of Israel for their land. It is theirs, they say, because God gave it to them. God promised it through Moses, and delivered it through Joshua.

That is the message also in the Elijah story. God keeps his promises. His leaders are carefully chosen, but progress is slow. It is chiseled out of human experience, like the Sphinx is out of sandstone. And then comes Jesus. The message is very different, the style is not geared to conquest or killing. Instead, Jesus calls the followers of God to come to him. He is the bread of life, his is the sacrificial blood and here, in this encounter in John, we see graphically presented for us a sacramental understanding of the Bible. The story points to a reality, and it is the reality, not the story that we grasp. Those who were troubled were locked into a literal understanding of “flesh and blood.” That remains a huge problem for our Roman Catholic friends, who hold to transubstantiation: that the elements of the mass are changed to Christ’s flesh and blood when the Priest raises the host.

Somehow Peter saw in Jesus what a godly life was and that revelation and relationship was greater than anything that Peter did not understand. That is the way it is with us, I think. None of us understands Jesus completely. In fact, if you encounter anyone who claims that they understand Jesus fully, or they know the mind of God, stand clear of them. Only idols have all the answers. We walk by faith and strive to emulate the way of Jesus the best we are able. That’s what it means to be a Christian. It does NOT mean that we have all the answers.

These stories seem to me to have added meaning in our day and age. when so many are simply walking away from the Church. There are many reasons why some people do walk away- some of them may even be valid. Usually however, the reason is petty and even selfishly motivated. Comments like "if they vote that way, I am gone, or if money goes to that cause or that group I am leaving." Years ago, there were Church squabbles when Churches opted out of the pew payment plan.  Churches used to have a charge associated with pews in the sanctuary. Families paid a yearly fee for the use of a particular pew. In addition, certain locations were deemed to be superior to others, so they cost more. Churches rebelled against this elitist system, because they asked "how will we balance our budgets? People won’t just give."

I hear all of the time "I don’t go to Church anymore because the Church is too liberal, or too conservative, it is hypocriti- or you fill in the blank. What all are saying is "I want a community in which all agree with me." That means we are candidates for a Church with a membership of one- me.  There is no perfect Church, anymore than there are perfect people, or perfect understandings of God and Jesus. You get Joshua and Elijah. You get spooky apocalyptic stuff in Daniel and Revelation, and you get the beauty of the Psalms. You get saints who inspire you, and you get the weak members of society who are trying to be good but often fail.  If you belong to the United Church of Canada, you get a Church on the forefront of social progress. We were one of the first to ordain women, a leader in the gay rights movement, a world leader in ecumenical relations and unifying mergers. You get a bureaucracy that is heavy with activists and system oriented people, but you also get some saints who give there all to worthy endeavors worldwide.

You get people who are in love with the Presbyterial system, and some others who despite the reality of the Church's polity think that each congregation is independent and not part of the whole. You get Churches that sound like a rock and roll concert on Saturday night, and others that sound like the Protestant Vatican. You get some poorly put together services, and some rich with meaningful liturgy; you get random thinking and the freedom to believe what motivates you, and you get the marvelous creed that serves as an open and accepting guideline.  Wherever there are people, we will get some things that offend us, but here we learn that there are people who see things differently than I do, yet believe just as sincerely.

We are a Church. We need each other to save us from self-righteousness and forming judgmental attitudes that turn people away. In truth, wherever God is God, there will be things that offend us, because even though we are one body, we are different people. with differing interests and needs.  Do you ever feel like leaving? Of course you do- we all do. B, and when the chips are down, these are the people with whom we want to associate as we grow on the journey of faith. With folks like all of you, right here, we can know the Holy God we seek and follow Jesus the Christ in an accepting environment. With that, we can deal with any thing that offends us. Thanks be to God.
Dr. Doug Lobb. 

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